Use AI as Marketing Infrastructure

Most marketing teams still switch AI on and off like a flashlight. The teams that wire it in, around shared context and human judgment, are the ones that pull ahead.

By Alex Greenshpun

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  1. 01Stop using AI like a flashlight
  2. 02Wire the whole team in, or get silos
  3. 03Be context first
  4. 04Slop still has an author
  5. 05Budget for tokens in 2027
  6. 06Marketing becomes the moat
  7. ··Key moments
  8. ··Full transcript

Almost every marketer starts with AI the same way. They use it for content (a blog post here, a batch of images there, maybe one of those slightly unhinged AI videos), or as a smarter Google that answers their questions. Both are good places to start. They're also where a lot of teams get stuck, because they train you to treat AI as one more tool you open when you need something written or looked up.

The biggest mindset shift I see across the marketing teams we work with at 10x Company comes right after that, when a team understands that AI is infrastructure, something that feeds several layers of your strategy and several layers of your tactics at once. And once that clicks, the questions change. Instead of asking which tool writes the best LinkedIn post, you ask what your whole team, and your agents, need to know and share.

Great, a flashlight for everyone. Now we're AI first.

Stop using AI like a flashlight

The picture I keep coming back to is electricity. Most teams still use AI like a flashlight: on when they need it, off when they don't, connected to nothing.

You need to be thinking about AI as the new electricity. Most people are still using AI as a flashlight. On and off, on and off.

You see the flashlight thinking most clearly when leadership decides it's time to "go AI first." The company buys a subscription to some AI tools, runs a few workshops and calls it a transformation, a flashlight on every desk. And it doesn't work, because whatever electricity does for a building comes from the wiring behind the walls, the connections that let you plug in something new and have it run.

When I say wiring, people often hear automations. Automations come later. The wiring is your context, your knowledge, your data and the governance around them, what we call the Marketing Brain. It's the fundamental context and data layer behind any agentic work, and it gives the whole team, humans and agents alike, a single source of truth. Build that first, and then you can scale, outpace your competitors and stand out for real.

The good news is that only a few have built a well-functioning Marketing Brain layer so far. Most companies are still clicking the flashlight on and off, so the teams that wire themselves in now get a real head start.

Chaos and silos and just randomness, basically.

Wire the whole team in, or get silos

The two use cases I see running on that wiring again and again are competitive intelligence and voice of the customer. Both come down to analyzing large amounts of mostly external data, in the context of mostly internal company data. So, everything your competitors publish and everything your customers keep saying, read against what you already know about yourself. The value is in how fast you turn that analysis into a campaign, a piece of content or an event.

None of it works unless the whole team is plugged into the same brain. When one person runs everything through their personal ChatGPT, someone else uses a different tool with different instructions and a third keeps the good stuff in their head, you get exactly what you'd expect: chaos and silos and just randomness, basically.

Each person does get faster on their own. But driving faster without a destination is worth less than moving slowly toward a clear goal, so individuals feel more productive while the marketing team as a whole gets more confused and more overwhelmed.

Polyamorous with models. Monogamous with context.

Be context first

The way out of that confusion is shared context. If AI is the electricity, context is what runs through the wires. Context is everything your AI needs to know about your company and how you work: your positioning, your customers, your voice, the decisions you made and why, what you already tried, your competitors and where they're heading, and your product truth. In most companies it lives in scattered versions of scattered documents and in people's heads, and it gets updated only when someone pushes for it, because nobody owns a process for keeping it current.

Stop thinking about being AI first, AI native, whatever those buzzwords are. Start thinking about being context first.

We've been building AI systems and agents for companies for a while now, and more than the model, more than the tools, the thing that decides whether they work is context. Combine it with skills (documented methodologies for specific tasks), tools and connectors (the plugs that link AI to your other apps), and your people and your agents finally work from one source of truth. It has a lovely side effect, too. Once knowledge is written down clearly enough for an agent, your colleagues understand it better as well, so human-to-human communication improves along the way.

Context is also the part you control. You can't control the model, what it says or the quality of what comes out, but you can guide it through context. With the right context and the right marketing brain architecture, I get excellent results even from models that aren't the newest, and I don't need Fable for everything.

So I keep saying we're going to be polyamorous with models. It won't be one model for everything. Soon most teams will run several providers side by side, OpenAI, Anthropic and perhaps xAI, and each provider already splits the work by tier. With Anthropic, for example, Opus can carry most of the tactical and strategic work and hand the grunt work to Sonnet, while Fable comes in for the highest tier of strategy and creativity. Models come and go, and the context underneath them is what makes each one useful.

Sure, blame AI. Somebody still stamped it.

Slop still has an author

All that context doesn't mean you hand the keys to the machine. Bad content and lazy ideas existed long before AI, since human beings weren't producing perfect work right up until it arrived. AI just gives us a convenient new thing to blame, and shaking off the responsibility feels nice. The slop is still made by people, though, sitting at their computers, looking at something mediocre and deciding, "You know what? This is good enough. Publish."

The trap is thinking in tasks. A skill, an agent or an automation can now handle a lot of individual tasks, but finishing a task is a long way from high-quality leads landing in your CRM. Teams that only think in tasks forget to ask the strategic question of what they're actually sending out into the world, and what their audience will see when AI does all of it.

The fastest way to get slop is to say, 'Oh, AI can do that. You don't need the human in the loop. Let's just let AI do that, and that's it.' That's how you get something very, very mediocre.

It's also easy to forget how strange AI is. It sounds human without being human. It claims to remember things about me when it doesn't really (that memory gap is exactly why I built Total Recall). It helps me and lies to me in the same breath, and it has no common sense even though it talks as if it does. The models are getting better, and you can feel their judgment improve, but we still have to judge their judgment and keep our taste, our expertise and our humanity in the loop, because that's what connects the dots and lets us orchestrate these systems well.

The same judgment decides how you measure whether AI is working for your marketing. Most teams reach for efficiency: hours saved, posts per week, campaigns shipped. We're past that. We already know AI makes us more efficient, and it shortens our time to market, so the expectations rise with it. What matters is the result at the other end, the qualified leads in your CRM, the campaigns that learn faster, the brand people choose, and reading that takes a lot more nuance than counting hours. It's also exactly the part of the work where marketers earn their place.

Your team, sometime in 2027.

Budget for tokens in 2027

Earning that place takes power, though, and electricity comes with a bill. Most 2027 plans don't have a line for it yet. We'll have to budget for tokens, which basically means paying for how much AI your team actually uses, on top of the tools themselves. For some teams that's extra usage on Claude so they can run Fable for strategic work, or more parallel automations and agent squads for more ambitious tasks. For others it's a set amount of tokens put aside for one important campaign.

For a small team, the $20 or $25 subscription may be enough for now. Eventually, though, your people will come to you asking for extra usage. "Give me some tokens, please, I need to keep working." The speed of work is only going up. We were always expected to do more with less, and with AI it's 10x that.

How much you'll need is hard to pin down. Start with what your team used this year and the times you had to top up, then at least double it, because even as models get better and the big labs make them cheaper to run, our ambition grows accordingly. In fact, it must. Set ground rules too, so everyone knows when the expensive models are worth it, for example a quarterly Fable budget for the campaign that matters most. You can also stretch the budget by cutting waste first, which is what Token Optimizer does.

Few teams budget for tokens yet, so for most of us this is still theory. It won't stay theory for long, and the teams that plan for the bill now will be the ones still running at full power when it arrives. And however many tokens you buy, someone still has to decide what they're for.

Anyone can copy the feature. Good luck copying the moat.

Marketing becomes the moat

That someone is a marketer, which is why I push back when marketers worry that AI will take their job. I think that's the wrong framing. We're emotional beings, so we're drawn to the most dramatic prediction, and what's actually happening is far more interesting. Jobs will change. Marketing won't be from humans to humans alone anymore, because agents will become a significant audience too, so we'll be marketing in more layers than before, and the job will keep evolving the way it has since there was a job called marketer.

I strongly believe that in this new world, marketing becomes the moat. When anyone can see a competitor's feature, copy-paste it, hit enter and ship it, what sets you apart is your brand and everything around the product.

So "Why do I need marketers?" is one of the biggest misconceptions about AI. When every company has the same agents, the same data and the same scrapers, the playing field is level. Letting an agent run your paid campaigns might be the right first step for some companies, and that's fine. Once you need your brand to stand out, to be known and to be chosen because people understand what you offer that others don't, you need human expertise in the picture, and that stays relevant even as AI models get better at knowledge work. You still have to be the expert. I also believe the people running marketing will eventually be the people running the companies.

And if you're feeling behind, stop chasing tools and trying to keep up with every piece of AI news. Start with your own reality. Ask where your knowledge lives today, where your teams are out of step with each other, what would make the work flow more smoothly and which bottlenecks you could remove. Start there. The tools will show up on their own when you really need them, like magic, but that groundwork is crucial and nothing can do it for you.

Key moments

  1. 01:45The big mindset shift: AI as infrastructure.
  2. 03:28Slop: the people pressing publish are still people.
  3. 04:59Marketing becomes the moat.
  4. 08:01An agent doing a task is just the task.
  5. 09:33AI as the new electricity, not a flashlight.
  6. 13:52Context gives your team and agents one source of truth.
  7. 16:27Why 2027 budgets need a line for tokens.

Alex Greenshpun is an AI strategist and builder and co-founder of 10x Company. She builds Total Recall, Token Optimizer and Outsourcerer.

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## Cold open (clips from the conversation)

00:00Alex You need to be thinking about AI as the new electricity. Most people are still using AI as a flashlight. On and off, on and off.

00:09Billy I like that analogy.

00:10Alex You get it. Yeah, on and off.

00:11Billy AI is slop. It's slop. But how much bad content was there out there beforehand?

00:15Alex We have AI to blame for it now. It's nice to shake off the responsibility, but it's still our responsibility.

00:23Alex Your team members will come to you and say, "Hey, Billy, can you give me some extra usage? Give me some tokens, please."

00:29Billy Give me some juice. Give me some juice. Yeah.

00:31Alex Yeah, yeah, I need to keep working.

00:32Alex Always expected to do more with less. Now with AI, we are expected to do more with less, like double that, or like 10x.

00:41Alex The fastest way to get slop is to say, "Oh, AI can do that. You don't need the human in the loop. Let's just let AI do that." And that's it. That's how you get something very, very mediocre.

## The conversation

00:51Billy Alex Greenshpun, how you doing? Thank you for joining me on Banter with Billy [the show is titled "Billy Banters"; captioned as spoken].

00:55Alex Hi, Billy. It's so great to be here. I'm really excited.

00:59Billy Amazing. So you are the co-founder of 10x Company and 10x Marketers. You started, I think, the first or maybe even the only AI community for marketers in Israel. So I've obviously been wanting to speak to you for eons, but when I actually thought, "Okay, what am I going to speak to you about?" it was like, "Oh my god, there's so much." So I decided to start with where most marketers start. Can we agree that most marketers, when they start using AI for their work, start with content creation? Do we agree on that?

01:29Alex I think so, yes. I think it's the most obvious use case, for sure.

01:33Billy Okay, good. For both writing and also for the silly AI videos. There are some good GIFs and images, right? So what happens next, in your experience? What do marketers usually progress on to doing? What do you see?

01:45Alex I think there are a lot of mindset shifts happening right now in how marketers are using AI. And the biggest one is that they understand that AI is more infrastructure. It's not another tool. It's not just a fun little game where they can write nice blog posts, maybe not so nice, depending on who's writing them. Infrastructure means, "Hey, this can be something that feeds several layers of my strategy, and that feeds several other layers of my tactics," and so on and so forth.

02:19Alex For example, competitive intelligence is one of those use cases I see commonly popping up across the companies we work with. Voice of the customer is another use case that is very, very common now. And the question is how we can use that immediately and turn it into intelligence for our campaigns. Maybe some of them are content, maybe some of them are events, etc.

02:42Billy Yeah, totally agree with that. And I think they're also really realizing that they have to get the infrastructure in place in order for the team to be working cohesively, in harmony, together. Because there's no point if you're using ChatGPT and our infrastructure is all fed differently. Then guess what's going to happen, Alex? I know you know the answer to this one.

03:09Alex Chaos and silos and just randomness, basically.

03:13Billy Exactly. Let's talk about the AI slop issue, because I really want to get this out of the way. AI slop is slop. But how much bad content was there out there beforehand? Were we, years ago, really saying, "Wow, all the content in the world is so good"?

03:28Alex It's nothing new. It's not like human beings were just perfect up until the point AI arrived, and suddenly, "Oh no, AI slop." It's like, yeah, we have AI to blame for it now. It's nice to shake off the responsibility, but it's still our responsibility. And the people who are actually creating this slop are still people sitting in front of their computers and saying, "Oh, you know what? This is good enough. Publish."

03:53Billy Exactly. And who fed the AI machines with the slop to begin with? If you don't like the slop, stop goddamn using it. It's really simple. Use your brain. You work with AI to not create AI slop. Okay, so we've gone into the infrastructure. What happens next? Everybody's telling us that we're not going to have a job in a few years, Alex. And that really troubles me, because I've had this marketing thing going on for a few decades now. So am I going to be put out of a job?

04:23Alex I think it's just the wrong framing for this question. We're emotional beings, naturally, so we really are attracted to the most hyped-up concept or prediction. But the reality is so much different. First of all, jobs are going to change. For example, marketing is not just going to be from humans to humans. It's also going to be to agents, and maybe agents to agents. So we will have to think about different layers of marketing. And our jobs will naturally evolve, just like they have since there was a...

04:55Billy Time.

04:56Alex ...a job called marketer.

04:58Billy Yeah.

04:59Alex Exactly. And one thing that I strongly believe in is that in this new ecosystem, marketing will become the moat. Brand awareness, everything around the product, actually becomes the most crucial thing. Because when everybody can just copy-paste a feature instantly, "Oh, wait, this competitor has it, I will have it too," enter, it's done. So what's your differentiator then? That's marketing. And I believe the people running marketing will also eventually become the people running the companies.

05:32Billy I 100% agree, and I look forward to that day. Let's talk about more leads as a result of using AI. What we're seeing is that a lot of management is saying, "Okay, we want to reduce the paid campaigns, or we want to freeze paid campaigns, because with AI there must be a different way of doing this," as opposed to spending 30, 40, 100,000 dollars a month on social media paid campaigns, whatever it is they're spending on. And the answer is, actually, no, there isn't. Because right now, AI gives us the ability to test more quickly and more creatively what's working and what isn't, so our time to learn is shorter. But because social channels are becoming so expensive, you actually don't have the privilege of spending less if you want to be seen.

06:18Alex Our time to market is shorter, thanks to AI. It's not just paid campaigns, it's the expectation, and that's why I don't really want to talk about measuring AI in terms of efficiency. I think we've passed that. We know that it increases efficiency, but what's the result at the other end of this? That's a different thing completely, and it takes a lot of nuance to understand.

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06:41Alex But you're talking about an even more important point, because you're saying, "Okay, I can have AI do everything for me. Why do I need marketers? Why do I need this additional person on my team? Why do I need this agency?" That, I think, is one of the biggest misconceptions about AI: that it replaces the people. It does not replace your expertise. You still have to be the expert.

07:08Alex When everybody's using AI agents, and everybody has access to the same data, to the same scrapers, to the same data sources on LinkedIn or whatever, you basically have a playing field that is the same. Now you have to stand out. How do you do that? Of course, you can let your AI agent run your campaigns and run the paid campaigns. And for some companies, depending on their stage, maybe that's the right first step, and that's fine.

07:37Alex But when you're at a point where you need your brand to stand out, and you need to be known, and you need to be recognized, and you need people to come to you because they understand that you have value for them, which is different from what the competitors [Billy: Yeah.] are signaling out there, this is when you actually need human expertise in the picture. And that's not going to change. You're still going to need human expertise.

08:01Alex So for some specific tasks, yes, the task might be done by a skill, by an agent, by some automation, but that's just the task. A task is not the thing itself. A task is not the high-quality leads landing in your CRM. It's just the task. And this, I think, is the misconception: people think, "Oh, AI can do this." They're thinking in tasks. They're not thinking about the strategic aspect of, "Wait, but what do I send out to the world? What is my target audience going to see when all of that is done only by AI?"

08:27Alex They're not thinking about that, and that's how you get slop. The fastest way to get slop is to say, "Oh, AI can do that. You don't need the human in the loop. Let's just let AI do that, and that's it." That's how you get something very, very mediocre.

08:53Billy You work with tons of companies, specifically on their AI requirements, and specifically within their marketing and sales teams. What are some of the bizarre conversations, requests, use cases that you've been asked for or talked about?

09:10Alex Bizarre is a strong word. One of the interesting things I encounter is that people still think of AI as a tool, and only as a tool. They say, "Oh, AI is a tool." But that is what's limiting the actual growth of the team, and their potential, and what they can actually achieve.

09:32Billy Mhm.

09:33Alex Especially when you have AI, as I mentioned before, leveling the playing field, you need to be thinking about AI as the new electricity. Most people are still using AI as a flashlight. On and off, on and off.

09:48Billy All right, I got you.

09:49Alex Yeah, on and off. And then the management comes in and says, "Oh, great, we're going to bring a flashlight for everyone, and then we're going to be AI first." That's not how it works. You have to build the infrastructure, you have to build the wiring, and you have to build the connections and the system behind it. And then you can actually scale, and outscale the competitors, and be differentiated for real. Because it is now a great opportunity, since most people and companies really do currently use AI as this on-and-off kind of switch.

10:23Billy Bizarrely, some companies limit their employees' use of AI. And yes, nobody wants to receive the big bill. But first of all, check what they're using the AI for and how much it might be saving you somewhere else, as opposed to just limiting the use.

10:38Alex That comes back again to the point of context. People need to understand more about how to work with context, and I would say: stop thinking about being AI first, AI native, whatever those buzzwords are. Start thinking about being context first. How do you build the right context? How do you maintain it? How do you keep updating it to grow your team and your agents?

11:02Billy Any other bizarre stories you want to share with us?

11:04Alex I've got to say that AI in itself is quite bizarre. We're not really realizing it, because we're kind of in the middle of it right now, but we're not realizing how weird AI really is. It sounds human, but it's not. It kind of claims it remembers things about me, but it doesn't really. It helps me, but then it completely lies to me at the same time. What's going on? And it's very easy to take AI for granted, to think, "Oh yeah, it's common sense, it should understand it." AI doesn't have common sense. But it's so easy to just think of it as another kind of humanoid thingy, whatever it is, like a brain in a box that we're talking to. So I think that's the most bizarre thing of them all.

11:48Alex We're getting to a stage where we can actually work with AI truly as a partner, because the intelligence level is truly growing. You can sense it. You can sense that the judgment has improved. We still need to own the judgment. We still need to judge the judgment of the model in front of us, but it's getting better, and it's going to improve constantly. But we need to always maintain our humanity, our taste, our expertise, everything that together connects the dots for us, so that we can orchestrate those systems better.

12:21Billy I think we also basically need to chill. As marketers, and I'm talking from this marketer's standpoint, we see the power users, everything that they're doing, everything they're talking about, everything they're writing about, and we think, "Oh my god, where am I and where are they?" And I think it's just like going to the gym. You're always going to have the ones who are in there training two or three hours a day, and their muscles look accordingly. Then you have the others who go a few times a week, and a few times a week is really good for them. It's enough for what they want to achieve.

12:55Billy FOMO has always been high amongst marketers. "What are my competitors doing? What are my peers doing that I don't know about?" And I think AI has put that on steroids, especially because there are so many tools out there. More than the SaaS tools we knew, like a billion SaaS tools, and now we've got a gazillion AI-related tools, because they're so easy to build. And I think we just need to chill. As long as you are advancing, advance at your own pace. You're going to get use cases where you feel that you need to start working with certain AI tools, because you really feel a specific pain within your job or within your company that you can solve with that. And it's going to be very, very different from what your colleagues or your competitors are doing. So just chill. Seriously, just chill. Nobody's going to get any healthier by living in AI FOMO mode forever.

13:40Alex [unclear, captioned "I meant that", likely "Amen to that"]. Stop chasing tools. It's a waste of time, honestly.

13:45Billy Yeah.

13:46Alex When you need the tool, it's like magic, it will come to you. Seriously, it's just going to be there.

> Speaker note: the regenerated captions restore Billy's "Yeah" between the two lines, with a turn mark on each side, so both "Stop chasing tools" and "When you need the tool" sit on Alex's side, and she carries straight on into "And I have to say that in my experience". One further turn mark inside that sentence (before "and we've been building systems") has no captioned words for Billy and is treated as an uncaptioned backchannel.

13:52Alex And I have to say that, in my experience, and we've been building systems and implementing AI frameworks and agents for several companies for a while now, more than the model, more than the tools, more than anything, the most crucial aspect is, again, context. It's context, and the combination of context with skills and with tools, the external connectors, the MCPs. This combination together allows you and your team to work from a single source of truth, and your agents to work from a single source of truth. And by the way, it does wonders for human-to-human communication as well. It's not just for agents. Context is really healthy for us humans as well.

14:37Billy That would be nice.

14:38Alex I think it's like a magical side effect of AI. And interestingly enough, Billy, we have seen, and I have seen even from my own work, that with the right context and with the right kind of marketing brain architecture, you get excellent results even from not the latest model. You don't have to have Fable for everything. When you control everything around that, and by the way, that's in your control. You cannot control the model, or what it says, or the quality of the output, but you can guide it through the context. And I think that's important to understand.

15:12Billy And I think it will take everybody time to understand which model is better for them and good enough for them. That's also part of the learning curve.

15:21Alex I think we're going to be polyamorous with models. I've been saying this for a while now. It's not just one model for everything.

15:29Billy No, no, no, totally. You're going to have your flavor of choice. You already prefer to use Claude over the others.

15:37Alex Yeah, but even within Claude, for a strategic task you might want to use Fable, for example. For execution, you might want to use something cheaper, like Sonnet. For writing, you might prefer Opus. So you have a mix of models. And I think we will very soon get to a stage where we will have not just a single provider, but will probably work with a combination of several providers, maybe OpenAI and Anthropic in parallel.

16:05Billy I agree, totally. So let's talk about the messy topic of the 2027 marketing budget. We are several months away, but let's say martech budget was never a significant piece of the whole marketing pie. Is that going to change now with AI? Is it going to be a more considerable piece of the pie? Talk to me a little bit about how it works.

16:27Alex I think one of the most important things that will change in our budgets for 2027 and onwards is that we will have to budget for tokens. We will basically have to budget for AI compute. We need an AI budget that is not just "this and this AI tool," but perhaps how much extra usage I want to allocate for a specific AI platform. For instance, Claude Code with extra usage for Fable, because it might be important for strategic tasks, or maybe even for specific campaigns where you want to make sure you have enough tokens allocated.

17:06Alex Because for a team that is small, it might be enough to just use the $20 or $25 subscription. That might be enough. But eventually your team members will come to you and say, "Hey, Billy, can you give me some extra usage? Give me some tokens, please, Billy."

17:21Billy Give me some juice. Give me some juice.

17:23Alex "Yeah, yeah, I need to keep working." So, exactly. And so you will need to budget for that, because the velocity of work is only going to get faster. As you mentioned before, we are always expected to do more with less. Now with AI, we are expected to do more with less, like double that, or 10x that.

> Speaker note: the regenerated captions restore Billy's "Give me some juice" here, matching the cold open, so "Yeah, yeah, I need to keep working" is Alex, playing the team member, followed by her own "So, exactly."

17:46Billy So how can you calculate how much you'll need? How do you know how much you'll need?

17:50Alex It's definitely elusive. It's not something that's so easy to calculate. But you can take a look at your existing setup and how much your team has been using so far.

18:01Billy Okay.

18:03Alex And then see: okay, these are the times when I had to allocate extra budget, and this is the overall extra budget we paid for this year. So you can assume that it will grow.

18:12Billy So you can assume it will double?

18:16[unclear] Yeah.

18:17Alex I would say at least double it, because models like Fable cost a lot more than Opus. So extra budget to use Opus is not the same as extra budget to use something like Fable. You will also probably need some ground rules for your team: when do we actually use that extra budget, in the first year, for the expensive models like Fable? And you will have to explain, "Okay, this is the budget that we have." So if you have a super important campaign that you're building right now, and you need to plan it strategically with Fable, yes, you have this particular budget for this quarter to plan it with Fable, for instance.

18:58Alex It's still a theory for most of us, because most of us are not allocating budgets for tokens yet, but this is how we will need to learn to think. We will need to calculate the usage, and we'll need to see, okay, maybe it's not the actual usage, maybe we need a higher tier of our subscription.

19:18Billy Yeah. Okay, thanks for that. So, planning the 2027 budget: take your AI and tokens into consideration. Alex, thank you so much. I'm sure that when we have this conversation in a year's time, we're going to do a comparison and say, "Oh my god, this is so aged, this is so dated. What were we thinking?" It'll be an interesting chat to have then. Thank you so much.

19:39Alex Yeah, thank you so much, Billy. It was a pleasure. It was so much fun.

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